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Felicia


Bună ziua! Spune-i povestea ta scurt, eu nu vorbesc limba română, am folosi un traducător, imi pare rau pentru greseala!(I know english well, russian and ukraine) Am 25 de ani, locuiesc în Ucraina şi Rusia. Pentru o lungă perioadă de timp a fost singur, în căutarea de dragoste si sa casatorit cu un barbat foarte frumos. Odata ce am inceput sa vorbim, am realizat ca l-am cunoscut de mult timp, am citit gândurile reciproc. Imediat simţit că suntem obligaţi de experienţă comună. . . Ti-e frica sa-si aminteasca, dar am avut. Povestea este: la sfârşitul de 18 la începutul secolului 19. România. City (fost căutaţi pentru acest oraş de pe hartă şi aparent găsit) Hunedoara. I - o fata pe nume Franchis (numele s-ar putea altfel de sunet, eu sunt sigur că numai prima literă). Fata a crescut într-o familie de o familie de ţărani prosperă a trăit la periferia oraşului, tranzacţionate cai, a fost arat, a lucrat lucrătorilor salariaţi. Fata a fost educat, ea a scris poezie, a atras puţin. . Ea sa întâlnit cu un mesager. Numele lui a fost Tadeusz (acest nume sunt exacte, nu am nici o îndoială!) El a trăit în apropiere de centrul orasului, unchiul său a servit cu lucrări (arhiva?), Tadeu a crescut fără părinţi, mama sa a murit devreme. Băiatul a crescut cu unchiul şi mătuşa. Ar putea juca clavecin, a scris poezii şi a fost mândru de astronomie şi ştiinţele naturale. A lucrat ca mesager. Tadeusz, şi Franchis căsătorit. Ele sunt foarte mult unul de celălalt, dar rareori la domiciliu, Tadeusz, a suferit Franchis. Ea a fost religios, Tadeusz religie dispreţuit, ii placea doar ştiinţă. Ei au vrut copii, şi a fost o tentativă nereuşită. După care a început o ceartă, Franchis a insistat ca Thaddeus a părăsit locul de muncă. dar a fost un serviciu public, el nu îndrăznea să plece de datoria lor. Apoi, acolo a fost o ceartă, Tadeusz mers documente shuttling întors noaptea prin pădure, el a fost atacat de talhari care au redus drastic. El a venit înapoi răniţi şi au murit de la pierderi de sânge de la mâinile Franchis. Fata nu a vrut să trăiască, dar ea a fost căsătorită cu un alt barbat. ea a fost de 20 de ani, el a fost - 40, nu a avut copii. Iniţial a fost ca Franchis, dar apoi au avut copii. Fata a fost născut în pădure (!!!): A fost un 1810-1812 (?) Anul. Peste tot în oraş au fost trupele franceze (legătură cu războiul cu Napoleon?) Franchis sta acasă singur, soţul ei plecat, ea a văzut prin geamul de soldaţi, temându-se că merg să-l. Fata a fugit în pădure, drumul a început să dea naştere în pădure goale. Toate terminat cu bine. Următor copil sa nascut la domiciliu, mult mai târziu. Soţul a fost capabil să lucreze la fermă, a fost o încredere. Obiceiul de copii şi a ajutat Franchis găsi fericirea, dar dragostea pentru Tadeusz nicăieri stânga. Fata aceasta a atras într-un album secret. Apoi, soţul meu a găsit. El a fost foarte furios, el a fost jignit. Conflictul a rămas aproape până la moartea sa. Copii dispersat, Franchis locuit singur în casa lui. Ea a iubit flori şi agricultură, artizanat, aşa că nu era plictisitor. Dar dorul de Tadeusz teasc inima ei si apoi ea a murit. A murit de bătrâneţe (?). Au existat două moştenitoare (fiica). Probabil a fost un album cu imagini din Thaddeus - album într-un capac de piele. Nu au existat fotografii. Aspectul exterior al ambelor ştiu, le-am trage (eu sunt un artist), pot arăta imagini. Vreau să găsească descendenţii lor. Aceasta este, de descendenţii Franchis. Pe hartă în jurul locaţiei de ţara sa de origine găsite. Informaţiile ne-am adunat firimiturile în 3 ani. denaturări Multe pot fi inexacte. Adevărul nu se pretinde, dar chiar vrei să verificaţi. Un lucru este sigur - terenul acelaşi. Bucăţi de oraş îmi amintesc bine. apariţia de oameni. Care ar fi de a găsi înregistrări în arhive! Messenger, Tadeusz, care a murit în performanţa de locuri de muncă - aceste informaţii pot fi de fapt arhivate. Pot să scriu o dată mai exactă şi descriu detaliile, dacă este necesar. Poate că cineva isi aminteste povestea asta? a luat numai 200 de ani:)
Sorry for my mistakes, thank you for reading my little story. Embarassed

rosu


can you write in english, please

Felicia



Hello!
I am 25 years old, i live in Ukraine and Russia. I was very lonely and wanted to find real love, when I lived in Russia, but there it was very difficult, and I wasn t shore that I really know, who I want to meet. I knew only one thing: he must be very special. My searching was very difficult, and when I realized that I won’t find love, I found one interesting man by internet. We began to talk and soon find that we read each other's thoughts, it was wonderful feeling that I know him all my life… But he lived in Ukraine. So I travelled to Ukraine, we saw each other and really felt in love. Than married… We felt that we are bound by a common experience ... We were afraid to remember, but I had to. Because I begun to feel strange and heavy, painful feelings, I did not know where they are coming from,it scared me, then I didn’t really believe in reincarnation, but my husband felt the same, and we decided to remember all, what was in our past…
And that is our strange story:
We lived at the end 18- beginning of 19 th century in Romania. We found out that it was in Hunedoara. I was a girl named Francise (the name might sound otherwise, I'm sure only in the first letter “F”). The girl grew up in a reach family lived on the outskirts of town, the family traded horses, had arable lands, where worked wage earners. The girl was educated, she wrote poetry, she could draw a little, liked horseback riding. . She was about 17teen when she met with a courier named Tadeusz (I m shore in his name, I have no doubt!) He was 20 (19) years old and lived near the center of the town, his uncle served with the papers (he worked in archive?), Thaddeus grew up without parents, his mother died early. The boy grew up with his uncle and aunt. He could play the harpsichord, wrote poetry and was fond of astronomy and science. He began working as courier. Tadeusz and Francise married. They loved each other very much, but they were very different people: Francise was very religious, Tadeusz despised religion, he was fond of science. And Tadeusz’ s work – he was leaving home very often, Francise didn’t like it… They wanted children, and was an unsuccessful attempt. After that they started conflicting, Franchis wanted Thaddeus to left job, but he couldn t or didn t know how to do that, andhe was shore that this job is his duty.
Then there was a quarrel, Tadeusz very sad and tired, he must transport a letter to somebody, so he left home in a bad mood, and did his regular job. After ending of this work he decided to return to Francise at night through the forest, and it was a mistake - he was attacked by robbers who slashed him. He came back wounded and died from blood loss at Francise’s hands. The girl did not want to live, but their parents married her to another man. She was 20 years old, he was - 40, he had no children. Francise resigned with her fortune, and soon she born their first child. The first girl was born in the forest (!!!): It was a 1810-12 (?) Year. the French soldiers went through the town (it was the Napoleon s soldiers?) Francise was sitting at home alone, her husband left, she saw soldiers through the window, she scared that they go to her home to rape her . She ran to the forest, and there born a little girl. All ended well. The next child (girl)was born at home, much later. The husband liked to help Francise with household, he was reliable. Habit and children helped Francise to find happiness, but her feelings to poor Tadeusz didn’t went away. She drew his portraits in a secret album. Tadeusz was very beautiful, so the pictures of his young face made Francise feel herself better… But her husband found the album, he didn t understand Francise and was very angry and sad, because he realized that she didn’t love him. The conflict remained almost until his death. The children dispersed, Francise lived alone in his house. She loved flowers and agriculture, handicrafts, so she was not boring. But everyday she thought about Tadeusz, she missed him very much… She died in the old age. Only one thing she didn t want to leave – her house… She didn t know what her daughters will do with this house – none of them didn t want to live there, maybe their married, and lived in their husband’s houses… it s not important…. All a know - There were two heiress (daughter). What things from the past could survive in our days? Probably somewhere may be an album with pictures of Thaddeus - the album in a leather cover..It can be In family archive of Francise’s descendants… Unfortunately I don t remember her surname.I remember only views of a town, faces of Tadeusz and Francise, I draw them all (I'm an artist), I can show pictures. I want to find the descendants of Francise. And, if this story was really in Hunedoara, I found the place, where the Francise’s house was standing, on the map of the town.
This information me and my husband (past Tadeusz) collected bit by bit for 3 years. We learned all map or Romania Wink I born a little daughter and wrote a farytale about this story, we travelled to Karpaty in Ukraine, Hust, Tyachiv, life doesn t stand at one place, so I want to see Hunedoara by my own eyes…somehow.
I want to check our story! One thing I sure - the relief of Hunedoara is the same. Chunks of the city I remember well.O, it could be very well to find records in the archives about deaths and births of people of 19 sentury! Messenger, Tadeusz, who died in the performance of the job - this information may be in the archive. I can write a more accurate date and describe the details, if needed. perhaps someone remembers this story? …It was only 200 years ago:)
Thank you for reading this long text, i was very tired when translated it to english, cause i did it by myself from the beginning to the end!!!!! tongue

rosu


Can you show us your drawings?

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Felicia


Ok.
This is Francise's house.But i know that it was rebuild, in our days it looks different than on my picture.
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it is a view of a town. (it is not very beautiful picture, i draw it very quickly when we traveled through the Carpats in the West Ukraine)


This is where this house can stand now as i think. Or place, where it stood. THE PLACE ;)and cemetery, where lied Tadesz's bones, Smile
Sad Sad Crying or Very sad *crying*





Now it is a road on that cemetery, Francise's house only on my pictures, but the church and the castle - saved! ...but which church? when i ll see it, i will remember...

This is Tadeusz 's house, i dont remember where it was, it was grey,i didn t like it, this is back view of it.


face of Tadeusz:



he was young, proud,touchy, brave and had a big heart, but have a heavy character...
FRANCISE:

she was romantic, proud, she loved flowers, horses,nature, God...
And there are some fantasies:


and its not my drawing but there is that view:


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it is not all, i ll show some more later

sir_drinkalot


Well, about the church, there used to be an old franciscan monastery on the outskirts of the city. Unfortunately this was demolished in the 1950's in order to make room for the coking plant and chemical sections. This was the Zarda http://romulusioan.blogspot.com/2010/04/manastirea-calugarilor-franciscani.html
Also I found a cemetery on some old maps very near to a place which was used as a decanting pond about 700-800m from where the monastery used to be. I've been in the area many times but never saw any remains of the cemetery, perhaps it was moved when they built the decanter, or just poured the waste over it. It has been done in communist Romania before.

rosu


If the church still exist and the cemetery not, is not Zarda in your story.

rosu


sir_drinkalot, can you show us your old map?

Felicia


by the way, i saw only one old map on wikipedia: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fișier:Josephinische_Landaufnahme_pg199.jpg If you have another map i will be very glad to see it! Smile

rosu


This is from 1780. I see five churches on this map.

alin


I don't know how older is

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